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mayanightstar

Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 43 Location: MN, USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't pray, and I'm not sure whether or not I believe in a god. But praying in a dream could be interesting, could help you find some inner part of yourself or something, so I think I'l try it.
You guys should quit arguing: if someone has their opinions, that's fine, but if they're gonna be jerks about it, that's not fine. _________________ Dude... O.o |
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sweetdreamer322

Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 22 Location: Currently, Addison, Texas. Changes frequently.
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ThreeLetterSyndrom wrote: | I don't believe in prayer, so I think praying in a lucid dream and praying in waking life are the same strength.
I think you should work hard and solve your problems on your own instead of asking some magic man/woman in the sky to solve them for you. |
I find your comment rude and assumptive. Every religious tradition on this planet encourages prayer in some form. Further, your tone comes across as quite mocking when choosing to use such phrases as "some magic man/woman in the sky." And assumptive because, based on what you've said, you're assuming that one would pray for one's self only. It obviously didn't occur to you that there are people out there who pray for the benefit of others, not only themselves. Prayer is a very powerful tool on the path of self realization and while I agree that one ought to look within one's self for the answers to their problems, I also believe that praying, in a lucid dream or otherwise, sends very powerful energy into the universe, which then responds in unexpected, yet visceral ways. _________________ peace be with you. |
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sweetdreamer322

Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 22 Location: Currently, Addison, Texas. Changes frequently.
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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What you pray for in a lucid dream determines your experience in it. If you're praying for your self, guess what? Nothing special is going to happen. But if you pray for the benefit of all sentient beings...you might be in for a very profound spiritual experience, regardless of who or what you're praying to. _________________ peace be with you. |
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Tommy

Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 2 Location: akron ,ohio
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: Well |
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| I have been experimenting with praying in lucid dreams for a short time....The only time I got to, I asked God why he did kill Satan....He said "Because he's a creation of mine and I love him."..now ask yourself this......why the hell would I answer my own question in my dream?...I didn't....I KNOW FOR A FACT.....Its awesome I recommend it....Just know what your going to ask....I didn't hear a voice or see him...but I knew what he said....Anyone who tries this let me know if you experience the same.....later. |
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HaoAsakura

Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: Well |
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| Tommy wrote: | | I have been experimenting with praying in lucid dreams for a short time....The only time I got to, I asked God why he did kill Satan....He said "Because he's a creation of mine and I love him."..now ask yourself this......why the hell would I answer my own question in my dream?...I didn't....I KNOW FOR A FACT.....Its awesome I recommend it....Just know what your going to ask....I didn't hear a voice or see him...but I knew what he said....Anyone who tries this let me know if you experience the same.....later. |
Well to be fair there are some beliefs that the mind is somehow connected to some cosmic matrix that has all the answers, in some traditions the mind itself is reality. I do believe in God but I dont think is some beign there in the sky but is like an omniversal mind or something which everybody form parts of and eventually everybody will merge with. I believe in a God but not in one that is outside ourselves just saying.
As for the comment before, why is it bad pray for yourself? You are as important as everyone else no religion or belief system say that the others are more important than you, but as important. |
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Thunal

Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 1001 Location: Veenendaal, the Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ThreeLetterSyndrom wrote: |
"Some great (wo)man in the sky gave it to us," |
You assume genders to infinite beings. This is obviously proof that whatever you regard as a god, is just an image in your anthropomorphising mind, and not a real representation of a god-being.
Wait. Are you saying that all mayor religions assume genders to their gods?
To say that something beautiful has to be designed is an appeal to emotion, by the way. It's not logical, it's just a conclusion based on ignorance, and not something to be respected. _________________ I shall forever remain mortal |
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Rik Moderator

Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 1780 Location: Boxmeer, The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Wait. Are you saying that all mayor religions assume genders to their gods?
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That wasn't what I was saying, but yes, as far as I know. Now, back to the topic.
| Thunal wrote: | | ThreeLetterSyndrom wrote: |
"Some great (wo)man in the sky gave it to us," |
You assume genders to infinite beings. This is obviously proof that whatever you regard as a god, is just an image in your anthropomorphising mind, and not a real representation of a god-being. |
Well, since the god-being has intentions, according to the most popular religions, it makes sense to antropomorphise. Besides, it's so difficult when you have to speak about 'a not-necessarily antropomorphic being' all the time. By saying (wo)man, I imply all gender specifications (genderless is one too) are allowed. Sorry if you didn't pick up on that.
In any case, I don't regard something as a god. I don't think a god exists. Therefore, I don't believe in prayer.
If you came here just to troll, you can leave, Thunal.  _________________ Quare? Quod vita mea non tua est. |
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HaoAsakura

Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 90
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| I dont think God is human figure by any mean. I dont think it has any definite form. I dont even think the term "God" is appropiate because it limits it to a role or form od some kind. If I were to describe how I imagine it is like a cascade of light (not the light we all know, some kind of light that oddly has both the principles of light and darkness) and is basically consiousness and is personal and impersonal at the same time. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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This is how I imagine God-
"Singularity. The entire universe. The sound, the the light, every form of vibrations. Geometry, dimensions, trigonometry or what we generally call math are maths or measurements of him'
Not that I'm too eager to personify him, but it's conducive to address the embodiment and as a person, and furthermore there is no ambiguity needed; for a body with dynamism and breath is alive, and God as a Body has both. So it's an live structure, just like we men and women are." |
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