WBTB Question

[Omarbibz]

Hello,

I have a question concerning the WBTB technique. It states that when I wake up I must recall dream signs. What if I didnt dream during that night. I am the king of person who dreams very rarely and remembers it. However, I know old dreams and have written them down can I use them instead?

EDIT: I also have another problem. Once I wake up I cannot go back to sleep again. WBTB requires me to wake up for an hour. If I wake up for even half an hour then I cant go back to sleep I dont know why. Especially if I am only waking up 1 hour earlier..

[Rox]

Everyone dreams on average 4-6 dreams a night, you have to train yourself in remembering, just lay still for a long time when you wake up. You will slowly remember fragments, and if your lucky you might recall the whole dream. You just have to be patient on the moment you lay still.

And for the other problem, then just shorten the time, 1 hour is just a preset time but it can differ a lot per person. Try 20 minutes or maybe 15.

Good luck!

[Rik]

Rox is correct on the dream recall, although I remember reading somewhere that it's like 40. Depends on what you call a 'dream' though. Does a shift in scene make it another dream? Or doesn't it? If it's the latter option, you'll have as many dreams as you have REM periods if your sleep is uninterrupted.
Also, it's trainable. Check out the tutorial section for some tips. Stephen LaBerge recommends in Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming you don't start lucid dream training until you have something like 10 dreams in your journal. I think this is a good recommendation, as dream recall is the foundation to lucid dreaming. In short, you will want to work on that.

My suggestion would be to lay off WBTB for a while until you can get a steady dream supply going. If you set the alarm right in WBTB, it'll interrupt your REM sleeping, which has something like a 90% chance of yielding a dream in untrained subjects.
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[Omarbibz]

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[Rik]

[Omarbibz]

Well sometimes when I recall dreams I lay still and can recall some but then other times I dont recall anything until I wake up completely and only remember fragments. Will recalling dreams regularly increase my chances of recalling a dream fully?

[Rik]

Yeah, definitely. When I started out, I recalled mostly fragments. It's important you stay focused and work backwards from what you know.
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[jamomat]

I have the same problem... When I tried WBTB for the first time, I stayed awake for 1 h and I couldnt fell asleep again. The next couple of days I was staying awake for only 15 min and i still couldnt fell a sleep again.

Any help please??

I also have my lights turned on when Im trying so maybe that is the problem?

[lucidpk]

I also have a problem whit WBTB. I cant go back after 1h. When i tried 15m i did fall asleep but I had an ordinary dreem. Help?
Any tips for having a LD when going back to sleep? Please!
PS: Jamomat definitly. Trun your lights off. Try boing it at 4 5 or 5 30 am when there is no light outside. Hope it helps!

[4amlucidity]

I am a frequent user of the wbtb technique. The key is once you wake up. Lay down in a place that you do not normally sleep like your couch or a recliner. When you do this make sure your head is pointing north and your feet pointing south. Focus on relaxing your body starting at the feet and working your way to your head. Find any tension and focus on relaxing those muscles.

[jamomat]