WILD = CRAZY

[Poochy]

Okay. This is for everyone that has tried WILD technique to directly enter a dream. This is something that happens to me whenever i try WILD.

First i try to get sleepy . At the same time begin visualising my prewritten story. Hoping that i can continue it in the dream. Because its just. Not as realistic when i think of it.

Anyway . When i start getting sleepy enough.. There comes a moment where all kinda random stuff happens . And i. Couldnt acheive lucidity during this time. I would just wake up .
But i only wanted to ask why this happens. And why my brain thinks of things i have never thought of or experienced in my life before.
It is really crazy for me . Kinda like them psychadelica things.....lol
REALLY CRAZY

HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED THIS TOO?

[Gold]

Sounds like every night, maybe I misunderstood you, but when I go to bed I use these images to fall asleep. But now I atempt WILDS instead and try to ignore the images, and keep focus.

Tell us more about the phenomena you are talking about.

[Poochy]

Its kinda hard to explain... Its the first part. When your getting into sleeP. But u still know that u are dreaming. Yet i wasnt able to control what wwas hapening.And also the variety of stuff happening amazed me.
One more thing i noticed after i posted this is that the dream also adapts to external sounds and noises.... I was listening to music while going to sleep. And i had dreams in which i would be at parties or something like that.
I dont know if i was using WILD at that time
Could it just be the body's way of going into sleep?

[Lence]

It seems to me that you're describing hypnagogic hallucinations. They're not full-on dreams, but short, random hallucinations occurring when aware of the state between awake and asleep. They're normal, they can be very interesting, but don't let them distract you too much. They're a very clear sign that you're close to having a WILD (or OBE) or normal dream if you get distracted.

[Gold]

for me its very hard to remember my storyline, or in my case, my intentions. As soon as I go lucid I´m totally blank. Last time, maybe it was this night actually, I got lucid, looking into a strange wall, ... but I couldnt remember even to rubb my hands, so I just woke up. Sad.

Yes, for me, that hypnagogic state is the state occuring every night for me since I was little, I only used to try to project certain dreamscapes in that state, because if I did so I fell asleep very fast, slipped into that dreamscape.

Now I ignore it trying to have a WILD and be able to rise up from my physical body.

[spike8742]

I thought that when you do WILD, you have to concentrate on the hypnagogic images. And as you constantly maintaining your consciousness, by concentrating on the hypnagogic images, as you falling asleep, after time, the randomness of these hypnagogic images become more less, and they become more clear, and vivid, until only one image remains, which will be your dreamscape, in which you will have a body, and you can do whatever you want.

But, so they can distract you? When I try to make up the images of my dreamscape, I can only think of them, but I will not actually see them. Those that I can see more clearer, are the hypnagogic images. Is that a problem?

When I'm practicing WILD and concentrating on the hypnagogic images, I can feel confident about my awareness, but there are times when I open my eyes, and get awake again, and that is when I feel that actually, I totally lost track, and if I wouldn't have opened my eyes, I would have just fell asleep normally, and I feel like falling asleep consciously is impossible.

Should I practice WILD by concentrating on hypnagogic imagery, or should I practice it by practicing to create more vivid images of dreamscapes by my own conscious intent? Or, it doesn't matter? What do you think?

[Gold]

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[spike8742]

Thanks for the help. Yes, I think the problem was that, I got myself too involved with the hypnagogic images. From now on, I'll stay back of them, and just watch them.

[Lence]

[elyuu]

Since I put my determination to master LD I keep waking up during my 8 hours sleep. Maybe it's my subconscious mind responding to my determination to train?

During my waking time to sleep back, sometime I found it's hard to sleep even I was sleepy and I try to do WILD. I only succeed to the stage that saw random images, colours and last night I succeed to ignore my body (didn't feel it) but not to the point of paralysis. But I can't go further to sleep paralysis. I ever experience SP by accident so I know how it feel.

I always fail doing WILD and just lose conciousness. It's hard to balance awareness during the stage I said above. It's either I keep jerk awake or just lose it. I still didn't found out what it feels like between awake and just lose conciousness.

Can somebody share some wisdom?

[Rox]

A lot of people experience difficulties with it, me too. You just have to go with the flow. And if you expect something to be difficult, it will be. You have to remember that you want to stay awake while falling asleep. This might seem obvious, but maybe you're thinking too much about it. You should keep it simple.

Remember that you want to stay awake while falling asleep. That is the main objective and you have tools to help you. Such as counting yourself to sleep. Looking to your hypnagogic imagery. And to add something about that, you shouldn't concentrate on the imagery but you shouldn't ignore it too. You have to go with the flow and if your mind attaches itself to a certain image, let it be. Let it happen to you, and enjoy it. Don't try to interact too much with the hypnagogic imagery. Let your unconscious mind lead, and just follow.

Good luck!
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[BeautifulDreamer]

I always have trouble with WILD. I try doing it when I'm taking naps, because I heard your chances of achieving a WILD are easier then. But I always get stuck in the state of when you're falling alseep; you're body starts to vibrate and you hear ringing in your ears and you feel like you're falling.
Maybe it's just me, but that happens all the time when I'm about to fall asleep. I try to imagine my dreamscape and hold on to the image, but I can never seem to enter my dream without waking up. Then when I fall back asleep, I slip into a non-lucid dream.

I don't let it frustrate me, because I know that will only make it harder, but I don't know how to get pass that one "sleep stage" where you feel in your body falling asleep.
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[alppdcjr12]

I wouldn't worry too much about it, Poochy. Distractions are normal, especially when you're beginning. The fact that you retain awareness and dream recall while keeping yourself in a lighter sleep means you are dedicating yourself to the task. Keep it up, and your work will pay off!
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