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La.Laura



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: I DO NOT WANT TO LUCID DREAM Reply with quote

I have had insomnia since I was a child. This is not because I can't fall asleep. This is because I do not want to lucid dream. I am not talking about sleep paralysis with the terror. I know what that is and have experienced that twice as a teen. I am now in my 30's and lucid dream every night. I'd rather not so I turn on music or leave on the television with low sound. It's not quality sleep, but it keeps it from happening. I can count on one hand the number of regular dreams I have ever had. I've been lucid dreaming at minimum since I was a toddler. I just didn't know what it was called then. It freaked me out so I just stayed awake most nights until I was so exhausted I wouldn't lucid dream. Something odd that I noticed is that I can lucid dream quite rapidly. I fell asleep by my cell and it had been 20 minutes. When I realize I'm in a lucid dream I make myself wake up. My sleep is interrupted. I just want it to stop. Sad
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Rik
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's so bad about lucid dreaming a lot? You don't always have to take control, you know.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. What makes you so afraid of lucid dreams?
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IrbidProdigy



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure lucid dreaming really doesnt exhausts you, by keeping you from restful sleep, so you should have no problem with them...?

All I can think of is your mind memory and non physical parts of your brain working when lucid, and I'm not sure if those really need much rest, but it seems like they dont...

If you dont want to LD for any other reason then specify, because I dont think LDing will interrupt you in waking life, unless im wrong?
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Rik
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Condensate says he (she?) dreams lucid all the time, and he seems to be well-adjusted. I also remember reading an interview with a woman who dreamed lucid all the time as well; she didn't have any problems with it.
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Dr. Condensate



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a he, and yeah, I do have lucid dreams nearly every night. About 95% of the time. I find them amazingly fun. Don't see why anyone would have a problem with it. I do know that my sister disagrees with lucid dreaming for some reason.
"I would rather not know I was dreaming." She said.
Have no clue why. Something about wanting to enjoy the randomness of the subconscious. Doesn't she know that you don't have to stop the randomness after becoming lucid? You can choose whether you take control or not.
You shouldn't let lucid dreaming interrupt your sleep like this. If you don't even have to try waking up, you might have a common problem associated with lucidity known as premature awakening. Many times becoming lucid causes you to wake up.
There exist a few countermeasures against this. One is to try rubbing your hands together in a dream to distract your mind from the feelings of your waking body. It focuses your mind on simulating the feeling of your hands being rubbed together.

Unfortunately for you though, it seems like you are waking yourself up. As you did say that you were even keeping yourself awake as to avoid having lucid dreams. Could you please elaborate more about why you avoid them? Is it perhaps that an insatiable fear acompanies your lucidity? I know some people who have had that problem.
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yenphan89



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:35 pm    Post subject: how to not have lucid dreams Reply with quote

Is anyone still in this thread? I just started having lucid dreams today and I've had about 10 in a row within the past 4 hours or so.. The first time I slowly new I was dreaming so tried to wake myself up. I felt shadows pulling me down and screaming in my ears.. So the next dreams I would wakeup in my room thinking its not a dream but I would notice weird differences in my room.. That's when I know I'm lucid dreaming again and every time I try to wake myself up I feel the same shadows holding me down again... I actually tried calling my moms name but my voice feels muffled so I called my dog who always sleeps next to me.. He jumped on me and it woke me up.. The next time it happened he just ignored me. I just spent the last hour looking up how to not have lucid dreams Sad is there anything you were able to do to eventually prevent this? I know this post is really old.. I just want to sleep and I'm so afraid to
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Rik
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is happening is that you get lucid and immediately panic because you think you will have an unpleasant dream, which gives you an unpleasant dream as a result.
Try learning some basic dream control and using your lucids for something fun (like flying). That will help a ton with breaking up your expectations.
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Altais



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with what Rik said, and would like to add that I think you might want to focus on dealing with ( or not having) nightmares, rather than not having lucid dreams.

According to Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge, anything that increases wakefulness can increase the chance of lucid dreaming, nightmares being one of the things that can cause wakefulness.

Having fear while dreaming sucks. Having said that, there are some people who have turned their fears into something that worked out awesomely for them. If you can find a way to do that then you'll be in a good state.

When you are lucid you get the opportunity to control what you think in the dream. Sometimes you get to influence the dream itself, and sometimes you don't. But focus on what you can control, rather than what you can't control. Having a plan before you fall asleep can help. "When I notice that I'm dreaming I will: (do whatever)." Count to 10 or something. Work on what you can do, and then experiment to see if you can increase your influence.

You can start with easy things, like "I will say my name" or "I will count to 5" and then move on to other things like "I will jump" or "I will run" then onto affecting the dream more directly, like "I will fly" or "I will ask the shadows what they want" or "I will accept the shadowy part of myself."

There's a theory that when you push parts of yourself away, they push back, creating internal conflict, which can manifest in dreams. If you confront or accept them, you can gain their power and have them work for you instead of against you.

A process that can help with this is called 'Parts Integration'.

Links about parts integration (you can do a search for more info):

Article:
www.2knowmyself.com/Resolving_inner_conflict/nlp_parts_integration_visual_squash

Youtube demonstration:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQwvWGXaDE8


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pureO



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't even know if this thread is still somewhat active, but I think I understand the original poster. I have been lucid dreaming for a big chunk of my life and I absolutely hate it. I never asked for it or desired to do it, it just happens to me. I also have experienced sleep paralysis most of my life, and hypnagogic hallucinations. I freaking hate it, I wish I could just sleep normally like most people. Because even when I have "normal" dreams they're still mostly horrible nightmares. I have learned to control my lucid dreaming, but it comes to the point when it becomes tiring, because all I want is to sleep and not wake up mentally exhausted from a dream. I also find it very hard to wake up when I'm lucid dreaming, and I wind up waking in the same dream, over and over, which becomes exasperating. I have severe anxiety issues and OCD, and all of these stuff just makes it harder to deal with. So yeah, I would like to stop lucid dreming.
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