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Vic
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 Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:33 am Post subject: Dreaming OF Lucid Dreaming, is it lucidity? |
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I dreamed I was in a theater full of people and suddenly everyone disappeared. I thought to myself "that's impossible! that can only happen in a dream, so if this is a dream that means I can fly" and I suddenly flew up through the roof and everything was white, as if I wasn't supposed to go there, it only lasted 2-3 seconds though and then I woke up (I think the excitement of flying woke me up) but then I woke up for real and found out it was a dream! It seems like I woke up for real just 5 mins after I woke up in the dream.
Was I actually lucid or was it a false sense of lucidity? I've been trying for about a week now.
I should also note: As I was flying I felt strong vibrations as if I was astral projecting.
The room I was in was not my bedroom, I was sleeping at my parent's place last night.
Also.. I've known about lucid dreaming for about 2 years now, but only tried to get back into it last week, and then I have a dream like this?!
Another example, I also experienced sleep paralysis just 2 weeks after I read about it. Someone suggested it happened because I knew about it, like it was just hanging around in my subconscious. Maybe that's what happened here with this dream, maybe it happened because I just became interested a week ago.
I also had another dream before the lucid one (same night). I saw a frog leaping, and here's some of the definition from dreammoods.com:
To see a frog in your dream, represents a potential for change or something unexpected..
..Alternatively, it may suggest that you are taking major steps toward some goal. It parallels your progress. |
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EyeAmTheSky
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I think you were semi-lucid at least, and your behaviour in the dream reflects that you're training and reflecting about lucid-dreaming. I always had false awakenings when training or thinking about lucid dreams, never if not.
Did you feel a change in clarity and vividness of the dream? Do you recall the sensations even better than in other dreams? You're talking about excitement... That might give clues...
As for dream interpretation, I don't suggest you to take what you read here and there for granted. It is obvious that in most cases, a given dream element will have completely different meanings from one person to another. There's no such thing as fixed or universal relationships between dream elements and real life, past or future (although there might be some difficult-to-trace exceptions when considering people sharing the same cultural basis).
I don't think frogs carry a universal message... 
Nevertheless, frogs might mean something for you... And you can find out about it by reflecting on how this dream element might be present in you real lige and why, and by spotting through dream recall and journalling if this frog has a strong meaning for you (dreamsign). |
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Vic
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| EyeAmTheSky wrote: |
Did you feel a change in clarity and vividness of the dream? Do you recall the sensations even better than in other dreams? You're talking about excitement... That might give clues... |
Didn't know there was such thing as semi-lucid.
I don't think it was any more vivid than usual, but the difference was the vibration I felt when I was flying. I haven't astral projected before but I've tried, and the same vibration I feel when trying felt the same as when I was flying, but it was much stronger, like my entire body.
When I woke up from the lucid part (still in the 2nd dream), I stayed in bed and felt the same vibrations while I was thinking of flying again.. and then I woke up for real.
If I really had control I would've stopped to think for a few mins and done small tests, but in this dream I decided to fly away straight after figuring out it was a dream, that's just not me.
I'm just confused about it all. If you know you're dreaming, isn't that lucidity? all it takes to become lucid is to know you're dreaming, then you have control. If I was thinking of lucidity in my dream but not actually lucid, then what WILL it take to achieve? |
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EyeAmTheSky
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Vic wrote: |
Didn't know there was such thing as semi-lucid.? |
OK, apart from the vibration stuff which I'm not used to, I might have not been really clear.
If you know you're dreaming, then you're certainly lucid.
Lucidity and dream control are different things - this is widely discussed on the forum (although I can't reorient you on a topic on-the-fly).
And concerning behaviour in lucid dreams... Well, we might be lucid and not necessarily acting with all the logic we have when awake. Most often when lucid I can remember and achieve some goals I had planned before going to bed, but after, thinking back there are a lot of obvious things I should have tried or done, that I didn't even think about.
Plus, an immediate "takeoff" after having become lucid is something that I experienced a lot the first times... It's something done without thinking, just because suddenly maybe you know you're free... Most of the time the fly was short and ended the dream abruptly... |
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Riku
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Vic, your experience was a very typical first lucid dream. You realize you're dreaming, (like most of us) try to fly, get too excited, and wake up (or have a False Awakening, like you did). There are many different kinds of lucid dreams, it's obvious in the beginning you haven't learnt control yet.
| Vic wrote: | | If I was thinking of lucidity in my dream but not actually lucid, then what WILL it take to achieve? |
I think you were lucid. I've had dreams where I dreamt of lucid dreaming, but what makes a dream lucid is realizing you're dreaming. Which is what you did. But just realizing that doesn't make you an instant master at controlling the dream - why do you think people practice lucid dreaming for years? It takes a lot experience to gain full control.
Check out some lucid dreams others have had in the 'Journal'-section, it should be very helpful in understanding your own. |
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Bunny
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| Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Any dream in which you are aware that you are dreaming is lucid as far as I know  if you could control your actions and were lucid then it would of been a lucid dream
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Riku
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| Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Bunny wrote: | | Any dream in which you are aware that you are dreaming is lucid as far as I know if you could control your actions and were lucid then it would of been a lucid dream |
A dream can be lucid without control, those are the ones I usually call 'semi-lucid'.
But it's funny how I've been on Lucidipedia in my dreams, even writing on the online DreamJournal, and never question the whole thing is a dream. Reading about lucid dreaming all day is bound to end up even in your non-lucid dreams. I had one where Clint Eastwood was supposedly interested in lucid dreaming, and had made a movie about it.  |
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Vic
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| So just being aware makes it lucid? Ok that's good to hear, means I'm on the right track.. but it's been a WEEK now and I haven't been able to achieve lucidity again. Is it because of the location? I wasn't sleeping at home that night.. |
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Riku
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Vic wrote: | | So just being aware makes it lucid? Ok that's good to hear, means I'm on the right track.. but it's been a WEEK now and I haven't been able to achieve lucidity again. Is it because of the location? I wasn't sleeping at home that night.. |
Actually, sleeping in new places is usually good for your lucid dreams. Keeps you more on your toes, more ready to awake at any moment in case of "danger".
And a week isn't that long, give it time. Keep a positive and excited mind about it, and it'll come. And if it doesn't, you can post here again. |
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Vic
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know about that.. I think the only reason I became lucid is because something completely illogical happened, a whole lot of people just disappeared which made me realize. Haven't dreamed about anything illogical yet. |
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Riku
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Vic wrote: | | I don't know about that.. I think the only reason I became lucid is because something completely illogical happened, a whole lot of people just disappeared which made me realize. Haven't dreamed about anything illogical yet. |
But that's what learning lucid dreaming is all about. Illogical things happen in your dreams all the time, and realizing something is illogical while dreaming is very good progress. |
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