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Francis

Joined: 10 Feb 2011 Posts: 49 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: Time Distortion - Myth Or Reality? |
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| Hello. I would like to know about the time distortion. I read on a lucid dreaming forum (another than this - Polish one) a history of a guy who learnt a technique to lengthen his lucid dreams. It's called "time distortion" and according to his story, he made it so long that he had lived about 100 years in one of his lucid dreams. It's kind of weird and unbelievable - seems like a plot of "Inception" movie. Most of people believe him but for me it sounds unreal. What do You guys think about such a thing like time distortion? Fake or real? Personally, I don't believe it. I made a poll so we could see our opinions in statistics (easier to read than catching up with all replies). |
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Phen

Joined: 24 Aug 2010 Posts: 25 Location: Chile
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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In a certain way I think it could have been real. In dreams that 'time distortion' is like skipping the boring parts of the dream. Like when in a movie the protagonist gets into his bed at night and 2 seconds later the camera shows his clock and its 7 in the morning in the morning. So that scene skipped 8 hours aprox. I think you can do this several times in a dream, so it would seem like you slept for hours, days or weeks. But I doubt a 100 years. _________________ Honor, Justice & Truth |
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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yea, 100 years? May be exaggerating. But can't say without reading the account of his experience. Links? |
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Francis

Joined: 10 Feb 2011 Posts: 49 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I can give You the link to his discussion with another forum users but it's in Polish. All he said was something like that (few posts):
He grew up, became more mature during his extra long lucid dream. He achieved it by meeting a woman, who told him, that she could lenghten his lucid dream, but it was not enough for him. He wanted more, so he killed her and "gained" her power. He spent 15 years in a dream. When he woke up, in his next lucid dream he wanted more so he made it to 30 and in the last lucid dream even to 100 years. He used some suggestions - told himself to lenghten lucid dream and it worked. Every day was going so long, just like in a normal life. He had to face with some unfriendly people, who wanted to attack him. When he finally woke up after the longest lucid dream he had ever had, he was so shocked that he didn't go out of bed for 4 hours. Unfortunately, he lost his ability of lucid dreaming.
That's the whole story about him. And it's not that he changed the callendar in a dream from 2011 to 2111, but he had a very long dream which took him about 100 years. It must have been very tiring, but for me it still seems ridiculous...
PS: If someone can read in Polish, here's the link to the discussion:
http://www.psajko.fora.pl/problemy-i-pytania,1/dystorsja-czasu,4230.html |
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dylan9236

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Posts: 187 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Francis wrote: | Unfortunately, he lost his ability of lucid dreaming.
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This part makes me especially sceptical, because
1. It makes it sound as if lucid dreaming is some sort of magical power that you either have or you don't
2. How very convenient (sarcasm) that he lost his ability, therefore no more research could be done into his particular case. _________________ Everything under the Sun is in tune, but the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon |
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Freddy885

Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Posts: 117 Location: United States
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:02 am Post subject: |
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I've had dreams that lasted for multiple days (like 2 or 3). But I honestly can't say that it felt like I literally spent 48-72 hours in the dream. More like my mind made made multiple dream-days out of 45 minutes.
If that makes any sense at all... _________________ Are you dreaming? |
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Eastern minded Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| That makes perfect sense, freddy. |
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IrbidProdigy

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 485 Location: Chicago, il
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| It sounds more of like some fairy tale with a lesson than a real happening... |
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mayanightstar

Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 43 Location: MN, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:52 am Post subject: |
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I know that your brain can trick you into thinking a dream was longer than it really was by skipping boring parts and kind of filling it in later, you know, but I'm really skeptical about making a dream last 100 years... It's probably an exaggeration. You could probably fit 2 or 3 days into half and hour's worth of experience, though, by skipping the boring parts and your brain making it feel like something happened during that time when it didn't. If that makes sense :/ _________________ Dude... O.o |
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Freddy885

Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Posts: 117 Location: United States
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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A famous author named John Draper said "Time is nothing absolute; its duration depends on the rate of thought and feeling."
In that sense I think time distortion in dreams is very plausible in dreams. However, not to the extent of what this guy is talking about. _________________ Are you dreaming? |
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n8b

Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 73 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Freddy885 wrote: | A famous author named John Draper said "Time is nothing absolute; its duration depends on the rate of thought and feeling."
In that sense I think time distortion in dreams is very plausible in dreams. However, not to the extent of what this guy is talking about. |
Agreed! I seriously doubt that that dude lived out an entire lifetime in a lucid dream. That story sounds pretty fictitious. But I think time is more relative than we think it is. A lot of athletes talk of entering a "flow" state where time seems to slow down. I've also had dreams where it's felt like I've been in them for an eternity but when I woke up it felt like I had been asleep for the normal amount of time. |
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stubsy123

Joined: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 16
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Dr Le Berge conducted a study on the amount of time passing in a dream compared to waking life using eye movement. When you lucid dream your eye movements in your dream body correspond to your eye movements in your real body.
He went about the experiment by moving his eyes left to right every second that past while he was awake (what he perceived as a second) so they could use this against what he would perceive as a second when asleep. He induced a lucid dream and while he was there he moved his eyes left to right as he counted the seconds go by. When he awoke they studied the results and found that seconds going by in the dream world and in reality are the same.
I had a really really vivid and stable lucid dream recently that was probably around 10 minutes long but it felt like half an hour so this isn't so black and white in my opinion. Interesting all the same. |
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HaoAsakura

Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 90
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: |
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How is experiencing 100 or 1000 years more ridiculous that shitting suns and planets with a thought?
It may seem impossible from this perspective, but impossible from the one that can fly like superman? |
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IrbidProdigy

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 485 Location: Chicago, il
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| HaoAsakura wrote: | How is experiencing 100 or 1000 years more ridiculous that shitting suns and planets with a thought?
It may seem impossible from this perspective, but impossible from the one that can fly like superman? |
I guess you could be right in a way... our minds have almost unlimited potential, who's to say it cant make time seem slower? It might be able to, but only trying it would tell. |
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gman42

Joined: 03 Jul 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| I had a dream where I was in the dream for several weeks to a month or two but it was like a greatest hits album with all the good memories from that time but none of the bad ones or the basic day to day. That makes me a bit suspicious of this in that he started to get near normal time periods of memory per day. Also there's the question of how much memory and experience can the brain store? |
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