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TracyN

Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 220 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:00 am Post subject: A Direct Interaction With The Subconscious Mind?? |
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Hello Everybody, I would like your opinion on this dream that I had and would like to know if anyone has had a similar experience. I know we aren't supposed to post dreams on this forum but I feel it is relevant to my topic. This dream was none like any other that I've ever had and it's started me questioning just "who" or "what" "I" really am. At the very least it's got me pondering just exactly what consciousness is. I believe I may have gone past the projections of the subconscious and interacted directly with the subconscious mind itself. Here is the dream.
I felt myself being pulled up through a void at a very high rate of speed and then suddenly the movement stopped and I found myself floating in a haze. When the haze cleared and the lucid dream began I found myself in front of two huge blue doors. They weren't really doors per se but they were a bright blue blob of color crudly shaped into the pattern of a door. I knew that this was a special barrier and that I could only pass through when I was ready.
I felt extreme excitement and urgency to pass through these doors. I would liken it to the excitement one sees when a dog gets excited at the prospect of fetching a ball. I remember saying to an invisible presense, "I'm ready to go, I have to get in there!" I noticed that in my field of vision floating slightly above my head was a small black mass or cloud. I didn't sense anything overtly negative about it but I knew that it wasn't good for me either and that I had to take it with me when I crossed through the barrier.
I flew through the barrier and as I crossed my excitement began increasing to the point of threatening to end my lucidity. After what seemed to take an eternity, I made it through to the other side. I was in some kind of house or building. Everything inside the building from the walls to the furnishings were covered ina bright blue, bright purple, black and white color scheme. For some reason every dream of great significance always has these colors present with the blue being dominant.
I flew around yelling "Hello" trying to get the attention of anyone who might be present. It wasn't long before I found that someone and I nearly flew by her. I turned to her and she said something like, "Hello I am Self." The girl looked nothing like me but I got the impression that I was talking to myself in some form or another.
I noticed that the girl seemed sad and was rubbing her wrist. I asked what was wrong and she said in a dismissive tone, "Oh it's just my arthritis acting up." For some reason I was very eager to help and I could tell that the arthritis was a manifestation of a deeper problem so I grabbed her by the hand and said, "Come on, I can help. Lets get to the bottom of the underlying issue behind your arthritis."
We walked over to a stack of books and the girl picked one up and handed it to me. I flipped through the pages and there was nothing relevant to the problem so I said to her, "What is this? This has nothing to do with the issue." I assumed that she had handed me this book in order to avoid addressing the issue. She looked at me in a sad and depressed manner and again started sorting through the pile of books. We didn't get any further than this because I woke up. |
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Noodlebaker

Joined: 13 Mar 2011 Posts: 35 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| Have you read Robert Waggoner's Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self, in it he mentions a similar experience. He describes seeing a 'blue light monster' which he felt he had to pass, but when he tried to run past it there was a loud buzzing and he woke up. You seem to be far along into the lucid dreaming process, have you been seeing blue light spots in your visual field during the waking day? |
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milan

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 28 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Paul Tholey wrote that in very meaningful dreams where you discover important insights it often happens that you come to a kind of gate and that there is a kind of gatekeeper who you have to pass first.
This also occurs often in myths and fairy tales.
Maybe this is like a psychological protection function that makes sure if you are really ready for this before you go on. |
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IrbidProdigy

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 485 Location: Chicago, il
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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I very faintly remember something about giant gates and waking up in deep fear.
| milan wrote: | Paul Tholey wrote that in very meaningful dreams where you discover important insights it often happens that you come to a kind of gate and that there is a kind of gatekeeper who you have to pass first.
This also occurs often in myths and fairy tales.
Maybe this is like a psychological protection function that makes sure if you are really ready for this before you go on. |
When i was REALLY young i remember i had a dream i was in the sky in front of a huge gate with vines and flowers and so many colors covering the gate. It was beautiful, but i couldn't do anything except look at it.
Later on i had a dream where i was in front of a gate, in what was a pitch black place. The gate was brownish reddish colored and continued as far as my eyes could see. I woke up and hid under my blanket in such fear the night i saw that gate, i have no idea why though.
I thought of it as when i was younger, i was pure and saw the gates of heaven, but as i grew, i became corrupted and saw the gates of hell. Thats my interpretation at least. Was there any big message with the gates do you think? |
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milan

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 28 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| IrbidProdigy wrote: | | I thought of it as when i was younger, i was pure and saw the gates of heaven, but as i grew, i became corrupted and saw the gates of hell. Thats my interpretation at least. Was there any big message with the gates do you think? |
This sounds like a christian interpretation of the gates. I don't know if the gates themselves have a meaning. For me gates or portals represent just choices that you have whether you would like to enter a particular dreamworld or not.
I had a lucid dream for example where I was in a cellar and there was a staircase down in the earth. I knew somehow that if I would go down I would come to some kind of underworld. I got scared and didn't go down, and the dream went on relatively unspectacular.
So I maybe missed an opportunity to confront a fear that I have, but the thing is that you have the choice if you want to pass the portal or not.
When you see it from a shamanic view there's no such a concept as heaven and hell. Shamans journey in their trances both to heavenly worlds and to underworlds, and underworlds for them are also places where they can obtain power and wisdom. So this is completely different than than the christian point of view. |
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IrbidProdigy

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 485 Location: Chicago, il
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I understand but I have to say I'm not Christian, I am Muslim, it won't mak a big difference on the heaven and he'll idea, but I'm just putting it out there lol.
As for when I had the dreams I didn't even know it's possible to be concious when dreaming and I had no choice weather to pass or not. Who knows.. Maybe I'll have a dream about the gates again and this time e able to see what's on the other side :]
Ty for the reply |
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