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marsmenschli



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Language question Reply with quote

Hi there
i have a question. i'm from switzerland and i speak german, i went to the usa for a year and since then i love english and i hate german. i usually think in english and i write personal stuff in english an i watch only movies in english. and sometimes i dream in english.
does the languag matter if i want to get my mind focused on a lucid dream? i mean i read all about what you should think about before you go to sleep and what you shouldn't think. like you should say "i am going to recognice that i am dreaming tonight" instead of " i am going to have a lucid dream tonight"

so my question: do i have to think that kind of stuff in german or is it okey if i think that in english. or is there a part in my brain that only speaks german and doesnt understand me when i talk or think in english?
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Rik
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Dutch, but I usually talk to myself in English. I don't think it really matters, as long as you really mean it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

english is prob better because if u think in english probably you will dream in english
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marsmenschli



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, thanks for the replies. and thats pretty much what i wanted to hear Very Happy
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amos



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems you should just allow yourself to do as you naturally do.

When I was learning German when I was about 12, I remember having dreams where I was speaking in fluent German well beyond the level I had learned it. Whether it really was German I was speaking or a dream-version of German I can't say, but wouldn't it be interesting to find out the (collective) subconscious has access to more languages than we may consciously know?

Und das ist ja kohmisch, das es viele Europaer gibt, die nicht nur auf Englisch denken und traumen, aber auch im allgemein lieber als ihre Muttersprache haben.
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Rik
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I mentioned before, I don't really think it matters. Most of your thought aren't speakable things, you know. Have you ever understood a concept, but never been able to explain it? That's what I mean.

You know its there, but you can't say it or 'think out loud'.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with ThreeLetterSyndrom. All the techniques, reality checks and stuff I learned them in English, some of the things I translated them and some others not. But I've been able to have lucid dreams without any problems. Is the abstract idea you get from of the words you read what really matters.
(I speak Spanish Smile )
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Bulgarian and, too, have only read about lucid dreaming in English...but I don't think that it makes any difference...As long as we understand what we are talking about, our brain accept it as something familiar...
I had a dream once, when I could speak English as if it was my mother language! I've always wanted to do that and in my dream it came so natural...! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninamania wrote:
I have asked myself the exactly same thing. I am German but only read about lucid dreaming in English. I wonder if this prevents the subject from sinking in deeper, if you get what I mean. What if my subconscious can't deal with English? Laughing


YOU are your subconscious, so if you can handle English, your subcon certainly can handle it. Besides, I don't think your subconscious uses language for anything. You know the feeling you get when you understand a concept, but can't explain it in words? As long as you understand a concept, you don't have to be able to pronounce it, explain it or anything. Smile
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